170 MHz SS5 system boards more tolerant than 110 Mhz?

2007-12-25 9:42:00

Three days ago, I encountered a difficulty with using 4G Segate

Barracuda ST34573WC HDs for a SS5 110 Mhz machine.

As a rule, all our machines here have just swap and /root on the system

HD. Thus, the /root partition is larger than 2G.

The original post was attached below for completeness. I had the

suspicision that the problem was caused by old bootprom, and the

following kind Sun managers confirmed my suspicision.

Matthew Lee Stier <Matthew.Stier@fnc.fujitsu.com>

Casper Dik <casper@holland.sun.com>

Howard Boggs <hboggs@bridgept.com>

Chris Marble <Chris_Marble@hmc.edu>

Birger Wathne <birger@sdata.no>

Mr. Matthew Lee Stier even provided me a list shown below:

-- From Bug Report 1234177--

The root partition offset limitations are based on PROM version, not system

architecture. The limits are as follows:

        PROM versions 1.0-2.6: 1GB

        PROM versions 2.6-2.99: 2GB

        PROM versions >= 3.0: No practical limit

However, I doubt the accuracy of the above bug report. On this very

machine, a SS5 with 170Mhz CPU, I have

% prtconf -V

OpenBoot 2.29

and it boots up fine with two Segate ST34573WC HDs with Solaris 7.

BTW, the same info can be obtained by temporily halt the machine (Stop-A)

ok .version

Release 2.29 Version 50

Created 97/01/13 11:24:50

The one that is on the 110 Mhz machine has the following:

ok .version

Release 2.24 Version 8

Created 95/09/06 13:03:40

However, even knowing the PROM is the culprit, for now I am unable to

do anything. The PROM chip is kind of hard to replace, and difficult

to get. Sun wants to charge USD 300 for sending a field service

technican over to do the replacement; we don't want to pay that much,

considering that buying a 170Mhz version system board upgrade kit for

us only costs USD 590 something from Sun (it's no longer sold by Sun

however).

I checked with a well known UNIX workstation refurbishing company in

Sunnyvale, Ca. without any luck either.

So, if anyone could tell me where I can get a later version of bootprom

chip, I would be very grateful.

Thanks again for the Sun managers who responded to my question. It's much

appreciated.

Regards,

Chin Fang

fangchin@leland.stanford.edu

================================ my original question =======================

Hello,

This past weekend, one SIMM module in a 110Mhz SS5 went bad, since

it's an internal news server, so I quickly took out its two internal

HDs, went to a nearby spare SS5 machine with 170Mhz system board,

took out its two internal HDs, dropped in the two HDs from the failed

110Mhz system, and used the 170Mhz machine for now.

The 170Mhz machine used to have two Segate Barracuda ST34573WC HDs

and had been running Solaris 7 for quite a while without any hitch.

Once I took out the bad SIMM module from the 110 Mhz machine,

I immediately dropped the two ST34573 HDs in it, thinking it's just

a no brainer. I was in for a surprise!

Here is what I saw on the console:

============================================================================

short read: 0x2000 chars read

disk read error

short read: 0x2000 chars read

disk read error

boot: cannot find misc/krtld

boot: error loading interpreter (misc/krtld)

Elf32 read error

boot failed

Enter filename [/platform/SUNW,SPARCstation-5/kernel/unix]:

At this step, in disbelief, I hit the enter key, and soon got:

Alloc of 0x4000 bytes at 0xf004000 refused

Elf32 read error

boot failed

Enter filename [/platform/SUNW,SPARCstation-5/kernel/unix]:

============================================================================

Still in disblief, I want to another170Mhz SS5, stopped it, took out

its SUN original HD (2G 5400RPM), and dropped in the two 4G 7200 HDs,

it booted up without any problems.

As an extra test, I dropped the 2G 5400RPM SUN HD in the 110Mhz system,

and it booted up fine too!

So, is there something wrong with the 110Mhz system board so it can't

take the two 4G 7200 RPM Segate HDs? Is it because the PROM is too

old? The yellow bar code on the chip has 7B56B5 on it.

The question is: how can I get this 110Mhz SS5 to work with the two

Segate ST34573WC HDs?

Thanks for any hints,

Chin Fang

fangchin@leland.stanford.edu

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